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What is Herd Immunity All About?

admin February 29, 2012


What is Herd Immunity All About

This is the fourth post in my vaccine series.  If you’re new here, you may want to go back and read Getting Serious, 10 Bad Reasons Not to Vaccinate, and Why Science Should Be Carefully Evaluated.

I have been just waiting to write this post.  Oh, I am so excited.  In fact, I’m even jumping the gun a week (I need to talk about how the immune system works, but that has been such a huge endeavor to research that I just didn’t have time to finish it up this week).

Why am I so excited?

When pro-vaccine and anti-vaccine people (ahem, anti-choice and pro-choice, really, since the pro-vaccine people often — not always — think that everyone should vaccinate without exception) get into a fight, they can go back and forth for awhile.  They can disagree on if vaccines really saved lives or if it was nutrition and sanitation.  They can disagree on if vaccines are at all responsible for the epidemic of degenerative and chronic illness around us.  But where they always end up is herd immunity.

“If you don’t vaccinate your child, you are putting those who are too young or otherwise can’t be vaccinated at risk, because 95% of the population must be vaccinated to keep these disease at bay.  You’re selfish for not vaccinating.”

From that point on — at least partially because insulting someone is a really poor debate tactic — it’s useless to continue talking.  Those who believe that have their minds made up and aren’t budging.  But of course, those who are against vaccines don’t tend to believe in herd immunity anyway.

So what is this concept and why does it create such a fuss?

What Herd Immunity Is (Or So We’re Told)

The theory of herd immunity goes like this: there are babies and those who are medically fragile (immune compromised, elderly) who cannot be vaccinated.  In order to protect them from illness, 95% of the rest of the population must be vaccinated in order to hold all the diseases at bay.  If we do not achieve high enough vaccination rates, these diseases will come back with a vengeance and start killing tons of people again, starting with cancer kids and babies.

That sounds pretty scary, right?  And of course as rates have fallen in some areas, there have been some “outbreaks” (usually consisting of 100 or less people, sometimes less than a dozen), which vaccine proponents blame on non-vaccinators for upsetting the delicate balance of herd immunity.  Do they have a point?  Are all these “silly refusers” causing diseases to come back and kill people?

Where Herd Immunity Came From

In 1933, a researcher named Hedrich was studying disease patterns.  He happened to note that when 68% of people in a given community had become immune to a particular disease (measles, in this case) either through natural resistance or having had the disease, that illness would disappear from the community.  Basically, over 2/3 of people had to be resistant, and then the other 1/3 would not get sick because the disease could not get a foot hold in that community anymore.

This theory is absolutely true and applies to any sort of natural infection to which most people become immune after having had it.  But notice that the required percentage is 68%.  Not 95%.

The number “95%” appears to come from observational studies in various communities or countries at large.  At varying rates from 75 – 95%, different diseases became “controlled.”  It is likely these varied depending on virulence of the disease, whether or not people could be asymptomatic carriers, how quickly and easily it spreads, and whether or not people could become reinfected with the same illness more than once.  Different diseases required different rates.  Pertussis appeared to require 95% (there are asymptomatic carriers, it spreads very easily, people can get it more than once, and many older children and adults don’t have a severe form and never realize they even have it, nor get tested — meaning they can be spreading it without knowing).  Diptheria appears to require 85%.

Rather than get complicated and tell everyone that different disease require different rates, researchers went with the highest required number — 95% — and told everyone that this is the coverage we need on all vaccines in order to prevent diseases from spreading.

Something we should notice here is that when we are discussing natural infection, 68% is good enough.  When we are discussing vaccines, 85 – 95% seems to be typical.  This is likely due to the fact that vaccines just don’t work the same way as natural infection.  Some people don’t develop any protection.  Protection wanes over time (after 2 – 1o years, depending on the vaccine).  Strains can mutate, but the vaccine strain is always the same.  Therefore, higher coverage rates are necessary to achieve the same end.

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Does Herd Immunity Really Hold Up?

Depends on who you talk to.

One source notes that as vaccine coverage rates rise in one population, it provides some protection to the rest, even if they are not vaccinated.  (For example, meninigitis rates dropped in the population as a whole when babies were vaccinated.)  Remember that observational/survey type studies are not necessarily highly reliable, though — they note trends that ought to be further researched, but cannot “prove” anything.

Other sources, however, have noted the following: vaccines’ protection wanes over time, so that 2 – 10 years post-vaccination, a person is not covered.  On illnesses like measles, the majority of the population over age 20, at least those not old enough to have had natural measles infection (50 – 60 years or older) are now “unprotected.”  This means that a large percentage of the population as a whole is really unprotected.  Yet, we haven’t seen a resurgence of measles in the population.  This same logic applies to other vaccines which are “highly covered” in those under 18 only.  The population as a whole does not reach anywhere near 95% (or even 50%, in some cases), yet we don’t see huge outbreaks.

Even with pertussis, up to 36% of adults with a bad cough actually have pertussis and don’t know it (thus can spread it — see source linked in the first paragraph of this section).  We’re well under 50% coverage on that vaccine and outbreaks aren’t huge.  What we are seeing, however, is that people who are most vulnerable (elderly whose protection has waned, babies too young to be vaccinated) are now catching pertussis, when this used to not be the case.  When parents were immune to something naturally, meaning life-long, then they passed this immunity to their babies at birth and boosted it via breastfeeding.  When parents aren’t immune, or don’t breastfeed, this breaks down the system and leaves babies vulnerable.

What all this really means is that if a bunch of people are vaccinated, it seems to provide some general protection to those around them, but herd immunity doesn’t seem to be required to keep diseases at bay.  If it were, then we would have quickly seen a resurgence of disease, or we would never have seen disease rates drop in the first place, given that the older generations aren’t vaccinated for most of the same things babies are today (those born prior to 1990 only got about 6 different shots).  There’s much more at play here than herd immunity.

Why Use Herd Immunity as a Reason?

Researchers strongly believe that high coverage rates are necessary to beat disease back, based on their population studies.  It appears to be true — but there is no placebo-controlled study to prove this is what is going on.

It’s also used, unfortunately, as a guilt tactic — “You don’t want little Timmy with cancer to die from measles because you were too selfish to vaccinate, do you?”  As always, these types of emotion-inducing comments should be ignored.

Looking out for public health and inspiring people to be “good citizens” is usually pretty effective.  Coupled with scary stories about illnesses that occur when you don’t vaccinate, most of the public doesn’t look further than this.

Yes, herd immunity exists (and, in relation to natural infection, is important).  But it’s not all there is to it.  When vaccines are administered, disease rates are lower.  But vulnerable populations are much more susceptible, and death rates (as a percentage of those who catch the disease) are actually higher.

Future Questions

Supposing vaccines function the way they say — that they prevent infection or make it less serious, there are still several more questions to answer.

  • What about these vulnerable populations — why are they more likely to get sick now?
  • Does immunity really last?  And does it transfer to the next generation?
  • Are the side effects/potential damage from the vaccines greater than the protection they afford?
  • Is there any benefit to getting a disease naturally and acquiring natural immunity vs. vaccine-induced immunity?
  • Epidemics seem to come in “cycles” — does this still occur when vaccine coverage is high?  Do vaccines have any effect on this cycle?

My Opinions

Please note this last section is just my thoughts and not medical advice or research.

I believe we’ve built a bit of a “house of cards” here.  Yes, vaccines appear to reduce disease rates in the general population, and it appears that the more people who are vaccinated, the more disease rates are reduced.  However, it also appears that those who catch the disease anyway have a more virulent illness and are more likely to suffer from complications or death.  Vulnerable populations are also more likely to become ill — perhaps because they are the only ones to which the disease can spread.

If we vaccinate people more and more and more, we might be able to keep the diseases at bay — for awhile.  But at what cost?  How much of what’s happening to the population in terms of degenerative and chronic illness is related to our high intervention rates?  I would guess a lot (and not entirely due to vaccines, but due to several types of “intervention” in our environment).  Is it really worth it?  We will look at a risk-benefit analysis of each of the vaccines over the next several weeks, using the VAERS database as well as whatever studies I can get my hands on.  This is a murky topic, to be sure, because there is not a lot of clear, unbiased research.

Next week we talk about how the immune system functions.  It gets very technical and a little bit crazy (it’s pretty crazy-making researching it…I’m about halfway through, as of this writing).  Stick with me though…once we get past this background stuff, we’ll be into the risk-benefit analysis of each vaccine, which I know many are looking forward to!

Source: http://www.vacfacts.info/herdimmunity.html

Do you believe in herd immunity?  Why or why not?

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  1. My youngest son caught Pertussis at about 2 months old. He was adopted and was not breastfed. The doctor told me that he probably caught it from me. (I had a bad cough at the time.) It was the first time I had heard that an adult could be walking around with Whooping Cough and not know it. It was interesting to see your comment that more infants are now catching Pertussis before the age of vaccination.


  2. wow, this is really stuff. i’d heard about the herd immunity and honest to goodness felt a bit guilty cuz i had no come back for that but was still not motivated to vaccinate my kids, for the simple reason that no research FOR vaccination has shown me clearly and unequivocally that imparting diseases the ‘unnatural’ way to my children is really just setting them for failure immunity wise. the only vaccination i was even willing to consider was the polio one and thats cuz they offer it oraly if you want and i feel that my children’s tender systems may be able to deal with the ‘poison’ seeing as they were fully breastfed till 2 years or more. however, i never got around to it and i kept telling myself i’d do it if i was moving to a polio high country, of which europe and america really arent. then i read your article and went into more researching and realized that you know what, i’ll keep winging it inshallah.
    i’m going to copy all of your research on this important topic and share it with my loved ones etc (with proper sourcing of course). many a sisters of mine (muslims) are wondering what to do. some of them are very unsure of the benefits of vaccination and at the same time feel its like taking a gamble and gambling is forbidden so it can be a very stressful time for parents with young children. using your information, i plan on inshallah sharing and encouraging the sisters to really review everything properly and not just go with whatever the doctor says or the ‘herd mentality’ type of thing. many dont speak english properly, or arent educated enough or just dont understand the jargon of science enough to be feel confident that they are making an informed decision.
    i’m so thankful to Allah (GOD) that He led you and is helping you to do this work and to you for sharing it so freely and kindly. alhamdulillah (all praise is for GOD).


  3. I’m so glad you’re writing this series. I’ve been wanting to do something similar for a while, but you’re right – it is “crazy-making”. I’ll be directing people here instead.

    Bless you heaps,



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  5. This is great reading – I’ve read all of them so far! I’m interested to know how to find an alternative vaccination schedule if you are somewhere in the middle – not anti-vacc but not pro-vacc either. We live in an area with scarily high whooping cough rates and so I would like to vaccinate my newborn for that specific illness. I’m just curious if there are books or resources that you could share to help those who are somewhere in the middle and would perhaps still consider ‘some’ vaccinations but not others etc…


  6. Kate-

    Great article, I really enjoyed reading it. I will definitely check out the previous articles you have posted. I was wondering what were the sources you read/researched when writing this article? I didn’t see any references listed. Was your information from books, websites, or research articles?




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  8. I think your discussion of herd immunity is interesting but one mistake you make is to lump all diseases together. Each disease has a different herd immunity threshold. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity And it is easier to achieve for some diseases than others. We do not have herd immunity for pertussis. That is because the immunity from the vaccine- like natural infection – wears off in as little as 3 years. However for diseases like diphtheria and rubella, vaccines have absolutely allowed us to gain herd immunity and eliminate the transmission of these diseases in the population. A great example of this is the fact that when the Soviet Union collapsed their public health infrastructure dissolved and they stopped systematic childhood immunization n many former Soviet States. Diphtheria returned with a vengeance as it would anywhere if we stopped vaccinating. http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/4/4/98-0404_article.htm. With the exception of tetanus, herd immunity exists and can be achieved through immunization though it is harder for some diseases than others.


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  10. My 3 older kids all had whooping cough, were very sick for quite a while, but pulled through with natural remedies and home care (none of them have been vaccinated). They’ve never shown serious signs of it since. When my baby got it and she became critical, we rushed her to the emergency room where it was controlled with several medications. Her two nurses told me that each of their 3 or 4 children had gotten pertussis several times, one daughter had it 12 times in 18 months! I asked if their children had been vaccinated and they both gave a resounding “Yes!” Well, my baby got it again 3 months later, and we were able to treat her naturally at home. She seems to have gained her natural immunity and passed unscathed through one of the worst whooping cough epidemics in our area this spring (where the local vaccine rate is 83% for pertussis). I think there is definitely something to be said of naturally built immunity.

    On a side note, Andrew above and many others mistakenly refer to these shots as “immunizations”. They give NO guarantee of immunity, and should be called “vaccinations”. The only true “immunization” is through getting the disease.


  11. I think of herd immunity as stepping stones across a pond. You can’t jump from one side to the other, you have to take the stones. If you remove the stones from the pond (vaccinating) it makes it harder to get across, if you take out enough stones, it becomes almost impossible. I usually use smallpox as my example, it still exists but by making an entire generation immune, we have managed to remove a great deal of the risk. (I believe in vaccinating, but I understand that everybody has their own health situation.)
    I would like to compliment you on your website, which I have recently discovered. I myself do not practice an alternative lifestyle, but I enjoy reading websites promoting it, you can never have too many ideas. Many of them I have found to be less about promoting alternatives than about attacking everyone who doesn’t share their exact same beliefs. I appreciate that yours is much more accepting and easier to read for ‘outsiders’.


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  14. Amazing posts, I can’t stop reading!!


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